[KwartzLab] Noisebridge & Techshop team up on a 3D printer

Chris Bruner cbruner at quadro.net
Fri Sep 14 15:49:49 EDT 2012


Since we are comparing, this is one that I've had my eye on for a while. 
http://printrbot.com/shop/plus/
8x8x8 build volume, laser cut birch construction,
no info on speeds
This was originally a kickstarter project.

Or a new one coming out, that is designed to be for normal everyday home 
use. http://makibox.com/
I'm thinking this one might be good because it isn't supposed to be fiddly.

On 9/14/2012 3:10 PM, doug moen wrote:
> Compared to the Ultimaker, it has a slightly larger build volume. 
> 210x210x220 vs 230x230x230. Replicator is 245x145x150.
>
> Both machines are designed for PLA, but can also print ABS. Replicator 
> is designed for ABS and has a heated build platform.
>
> Ultimaker is much faster. Ultimaker speeds: head moves up to 400 mm/s, 
> prints at up to 150mm/s. Type A: 250 mm/s and 90 mm/s. The bowden 
> cable design makes the Ultimaker print head much lighter, which 
> enables faster head motion. Replicator claims a recommended print 
> speed of 40 mm/s. You can go faster, but MakerBot is very concerned 
> about reliability, and provides conservative specs that work for any 
> print job. The other guys tell you how fast the machine can print when 
> it is on the edge of shaking itself apart, so the specs aren't 
> directly comparable, in my opinion.
>
> Print resolution is probably comparable: you can achieve really high 
> model-specific resolutions if you invest enough time tuning for a 
> specific print job, but 100 micron layers are as far as most people go 
> without doing a lot of fiddling, on any printer of this type. Type A 
> reports experimental builds with special software at 50 micron layer 
> height; 40 microns was reported a year ago for Ultimaker and I don't 
> know if that's been exceeded yet.
>
> Ultimaker needs periodic tuning to keep it working. The Type A is 
> preassembled, and has the potential to be less fiddly (comparable to a 
> Replicator), but there's not enough information about reliability.
>
> Type A is cheaper in North America. Ultimaker is shipped from Europe, 
> and is about $2000 all in, with shipping and duty.
>
> Doug.
>
> On 14 September 2012 14:06, Jeff Schmidt <digitalfalcon at rogers.com 
> <mailto:digitalfalcon at rogers.com>> wrote:
>
>     How does it compare to the Ultimaker?
>
>     - Jeff
>
>     On Sep 14, 2012, at 1:03 PM, doug moen <doug at moens.org
>     <mailto:doug at moens.org>> wrote:
>
>>     Hi Ben. Thanks for pointing this out, as it pushes all of my
>>     buttons (pre-assembled, and they claim good mechanical design and
>>     reliable, fast, high quality output). If it is capable of
>>     matching a $2000 MakerBot Replicator in terms of reliability and
>>     output quality, then I'm very interested. The specs are certainly
>>     good.  I just want to see reports from independent reviewers.
>>
>>     Doug.
>>
>>     On 14 September 2012 08:51, Ben Brown <ben at kwartzlab.ca
>>     <mailto:ben at kwartzlab.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>         1.75mm, 230mm3 build area, $1200:
>>
>>         http://typeamachines.com/details
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